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"As If": This was added to the FAQ (v.1.7, March 2020) and then amended (v.1.8, October 2020). You can read the October ruling on the ArkhamDB rules page here. (I'm adding a hyperlink rather than retyping the rules in case in future the ruling is changed or amended - at that point, the rules page will be updated and all ArkhamDB FAQ entries will link to the correct ruling.)
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Q: Using Sixth Sense in the scenario Ice and Death – I am considered to be in two locations and I’ve drawn the chaos token – which location’s shelter value do I have to take as modifier? Can I choose any one I want? A: We believe that you’d add BOTH Shelter values to determine the value of X. (One way to reason this was to consider if both locations had an ability that triggered “if you failed an investigation test here, __” both effects would apply to you. If you’re in 2 locations, X would have to account for both locations.)
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Q: Using Sixth Sense in the scenario To the Forbidden Peaks – I’ve drawn the chaos token – I am considered to be in two locations – from which location do I have to move? Can I choose from any one I want? A: This is a little bit different than above [q on Ice and Death] because it’s impossible to resolve as if you were in two locations at the same time; instead, you would only be able to move from the location your investigator is physically at.
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Q: I saw your recent ruling on complex expose effect results [see Trish Scarborough or Breaking and Entering], and it led to 3 questions about Sixth Sense (4). 1) If you draw a qualifying symbol, and can "choose a revealed location up to 2 connections away from your current location; you are now investigating as if you were at the chosen location in addition..." can you choose the original location to investigate it twice? 2) If you're investigating to expose, and draw an appropriate symbol can you expose a concealed card at your location, and still discover at the chosen location? 3) Since the Sixth Sense (4) result uses "as if you were at that location" wording, can you expose a card at the chosen location? (Which, depending on the answer to #2 could mean you could expose cards at both locations?) A: You asked about Sixth Sense (4) and exposing concealed cards.
- No, you could not choose the same location you’re currently in with Sixth Sense (4); you’d have to choose a different one.
- No. Exposing concealed cards replaces the gaining of clues. If using Sixth Sense (4) to expose, you’d have to replace all clue gain with the exposing of the concealed card.
- Yes, it would be possible to expose a card in the chosen location.
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Q: When I investigate using the upgraded Sixth Sense and reveal one of the listed symbol tokens, how do I resolve investigating 2 locations? How do I resolve any additional effects that would trigger as a result of investigating the second location? A: To investigate 2 locations with the upgraded Sixth Sense, you perform one investigation test, choosing the shroud value of either your current location or the chosen location, and then you apply the results of the test to both locations. Each effect on either location that would trigger during that investigation still triggers, so long as you haven’t passed its initiation point. For example, if you choose Experimental Therapies Ward, you may resolve its triggered ability of taking 1 horror to give it –2 shroud for the investigation. By that same logic, the Forced effect on Grand Chamber will trigger if you do not succeed the skill test by at least 2. - FAQ, v.2.1, August 2023
Apoyo. Arcano
Hechizo.
Coste: 3. PX: 4.
: Investigar. Investiga usando en lugar de . Recibes +2 para esta investigación. Si se revela un símbolo , , o durante esta prueba, puedes elegir un Lugar revelado que esté a un máximo de 2 conexiones de distancia de tu Lugar; ahora estás investigando como si estuvieras en el Lugar elegido además de en tu Lugar (puedes usar cualquiera de los valores de velo).
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- Sixth Sense (The Wages of Sin #158)
FAQs
(from the official FAQ or responses to the official rules question form)Reviews
A comparison to using Rite of Seeking (4), assuming no support for either and you always have a location available for an additional investigate, at discovering 18 clues:
- Rite would take 10 resources, 2 cards, 2 plays, 6 investigate actions at 3 clues per actions
- Sixth sense would take 3 resources, 1 play, ~13 investigate actions, at 1.35 clue per action
Rite of Seeking saves 7 actions, but costs 7 resources, 1 card, and a play more. A naive analysis liquidating every resource and card would into actions put Sixth Sense squarely ahead. Even a slightly less naive analysis — say you spend a play on Emergency Cache and put a copy of Rite of Seeking in play with an Uncage the Soul — still works out to +1 resource +3 cards and +2 plays vs +7 actions, putting Sixth Sense only 1 investigate action behind (assuming you can use the resources and cards to save actions in other ways).
This comparison purely theoretical — there's almost no scenario where you'll need to get 18 clues alone as a mystic. But it's quite common to need to need to get more than the 9 clues that a single copy of Rite of Seeking would get you; which gives Sixth Sense a even larger lead in such a situation...
...at least, until support is factored in. Sixth Sense's support options are just worse:
- Dark Prophecy adds +0.5 clues for a card and a resource.
- Grotesque Statue (2) adds ~+0.3 x3 clues for a card, a play, and 3 resources
- Eldritch Inspiration adds +1 clue for a card.
- Olive McBride + Ritual Candles — adds at +0.4 clues 1/round for 2 plays, 2 cards and 3 resources.
When compared with Recharge or Twila, no amount of support Sixth Sense can get will keep up with Rite of Seeking's action compression. The caveat is that recharge support costs XP.
Other considerations:
- Rite's downside is easily mitigated most of the time, the real downside is that a failed Rite of Seeking test is much worse than a failed Sixth Sense test and it's terribly inefficient when there's one clue remaining (Seekers, do your job!)
- Potential shroud reduction is occasionally useful, but offset by the fact that it needs to make more tests at a high shroud location, to the point where Grotesque Statue is more useful for Rite of Seeking than for Sixth Sense.
- Playing Grotesque Statue to speed up Sixth Sense investigation is usually a wash on clues/action compared to just taking an extra Sixth Sense investigate
- Sixth sense is worse on scenarios which require you to clear clues off a single location to advance, and on VP locations
- Jacqueline Fine can use Sixth Sense better than any other investigator
So in conclusion:
- If you're going to get recharge tech for your other spells anyway, go for Rite of Seeking
- If your team has a competent seeker and you don't need to get much more than 9 clues a scenario, go Rite of Seeking (Sixth Sense/Drawn to the Flame can pick up a few more if needed).
- If you're in a low XP campaign (read: Dunwich) without Arcane Research, or have other priorities, Sixth Sense becomes much more attractive because of how little XP it takes to get going.
- Sixth Sense is far cheaper to run and allows you to run a Mystic deck with much fewer economy cards.
Other people than I should likely weigh in here, but ok, Ill go first!
I thought this was a pretty crap card compared to an upgraded Rite of Seeking, and in many decks that will remain to be true. However, if you are going on a token manipulation deck; a deck that utilizes cards like Olive McBride, or Eldritch Inspiration which give you multiple "If X is revealed during this test" triggers, things start to change dramatically. Already, this card gives the same +2 testing buff as an upgraded rite, but the sneaky ability to trigger the "investigating as if you are the chosen position IN ADDITION to your location" trigger makes this card at least as good as the first upgrade of Rite of Seeking, and the occasional time to trigger it twice, netting you at least 3 clues from 3 locations utilizing the most favorable shroud value. That last point isn't to be understated. When resolving multiple nasty tokens makes for some complicated math if you can't get something like 2 shroud as your base.
Also, the negative ability on rite is just brutal sometimes. Turning it into a plus has the ability to supercharge some builds. For a deck that is going full-on token manipulation, consider this card at even or maybe even better than an upgraded rite. Rite has limited ammo and costs a 2 more to boot. This card really shines in multiplayer, too, as you have other people unlocking locations for you. The drawback, like all combo decks, requires a very picky set of conditions. With Olive only able to trigger once per round, without other token manipulation, you might find Sense rather wanting.
In the end, more stable cards like Rite will likely continue to be the mainstay for most clue/mystics. But don't overlook this very interesting build path.
Father Mateo +++
Being that Father gets superpowers on resolving Eldar symbols, going token manipulation already is a very clutch strategy that gets turbocharged by adding this upgrade path.
While Father benefits FAR more than Jim, being able to "0" out the skulls really allows this card to shine more if Jim is manipulating the bag!
A lot of the problem with setting up a deck manipulation strategy is getting the right cards at the right time. Few base characters in the game can churn through their deck faster than Diana. While you have to dedicate a huge number of slots to exercise this churn and burn, there are likely enough slots to throw-in a few token tricks *stairs longing at Eldritch Inspiration. Of course, if you resolve it twice rather than cancel it, you don't get the same churn and burn ability, and other cards give up more looks at tokens are generally items or assets we would rather not see leave play, which def makes Diana the least suitable to lean heavy into this path, but it is still at least slightly more powerful than other mystics abilities line up for.
All other mages might actually be actively bad to try this path. Though others might have more to say about synergies that I haven't considered as a relatively new player. So don't overlook Sixth Sense, it might just help you see the way forward!
This card is bonkers. I really wish there were more ways to enable this card other than just Olive McBride. Oh well, I guess maybe then it would simply become too strong. Still... I can't unsee the potential of this card in the hands of Jacqueline.